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Wil Leman The Postal Musician Turned Computer Programming Major

Wil Leman The Postal Musician

Wil found music at a young age, and it changed his life!

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Playing in a band for 6 years, he knew early on that it is extremely hard as a musician to get signed to a big time contract with a label. Through the years he learned a valuable lesson, that having a back up plan for when your dreams don’t come true is vital to future success.

Nearly 10 years later he figured out that he wanted to go back to school to be a chemical engineer. Wil quickly figured out that he didn’t want to be a chemical engineer, as the career path was very difficult for him to keep up with while working full time as a U.S. Postal employee. He also realized that while he loved the idea of the important title of “chemical engineer”, he had no idea what a chemical engineer actually does.

Fortunately for Wil, he took an elective that lead him into something he loves which is computer programming! In the mean time, he is still deeply rooted as a musician and does still produce music just one of his hobbies. Wil is also getting married to his fiancé, Jen, in October of this year!

Wil is a very good friend of mine, and I am very happy that he wanted to come onto Dreamers Podcast to talk about being a musician and reaching for his goals in higher education. I am also honored to say that I will be one of his groomsmen for his wedding. At the end of this episode, he decided to let me plug my DJ album, Adventurtorium. You can download it for free, or buy it on limited edition dual cds for $10. 25% of that goes to Give Kids The World, which is a great charity that brings children with life threatening diseases, with their families, down to Orlando, Florida to enjoy the theme parks and stay in a big house. The kids and their families get a chance to forget about all of their worries, and just be kids.

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Episode 25

Transcription

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this is the dreamers podcast where
dreamers shared their stories to inspire

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you

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now join host Joe Pardo as he interviews
a dreamer who is living their dreams

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video this way later on you can see me
trying to take that cap you’re looking

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like I was a song about your vent holes
brick really pretty song at the end

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everything you just hear people throwing
symbols and what the f are you doing

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there and you haven’t messed up there
and it’s very found out it’s very pretty

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song and that gets very for our very
quickly so I’m being a time so welcome

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to the dreamers podcast I’m your host
Joe Pardo and today I’m interviewing

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will loom on women

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oh la la anh Li man low man domain name
lemurs lo mein

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it was living history by pursuing a new
career

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welcome to the show thank you for having
let’s get started by giving a background

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about yourself

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ok I’m a twenty-eight-year-old postal
worker from New Jersey here down the

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street from you

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yeah Jersey Jersey boy I working at the
post office for about 10 years now and

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finally got the courage to finally want
to leave my job and go back to school

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and pursue a career in computers i’m an
avid musician I’ve been playing for

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about 19 years now been quite a few
bands in fact in a band with you for a

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short period and was very short . sure .
it was it was fun very short though

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Wow been playing likes to play music for
about 19 years now I was a big part of

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my life and actually pursued a degree in
music recording we know well i think the

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world of everything that you do it you
do it with such a passion no matter what

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it is whether it’s it’s playing hockey
where I played on teams with you when

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you only we’re just getting started
playing goalie and really we’re not good

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at it

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no I wasn’t but you know your drive to
just jump in and try to do things has

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always drawn me to you I’d like to hear
what really inspires you

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I’m actually inspired by not having the
fear of to jump into something and like

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NDC people all the time like you with
this podcast you know you don’t have a

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fear that isn’t gonna work out you
you’re confident that no matter what

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you’re doing what you want to do and
it’s gonna work out for you that’s

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really you know inspiring to me because
like with everything i do i mean it was

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very scary to to leave my job and to go
back to school or even like when like

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how we play hockey together you know I
mean starting in you know starting back

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playing some like that at 23 and
position I’ve never done before you know

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it’s you know even some small sites it’s
still a little scary to jump into but

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you know seeing people again like you
who doing something like this it’s

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really inspiring to to jump in have that
leap of faith and just know that it’s

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all gonna work out in the end when I
started playing hockey I think you would

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just started playing goalie at that time

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yes so we know where we kind of grew up
together in that sense of of our hockey

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career you know

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amateur careers that roller amateur
amateur roller hockey careers that arm

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League of the farm league yeah let’s
let’s talk about some of your dreams and

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how they came about I guess let’s start
with your love of music we can go into

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your job and then into your education

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alright well i mean i guess with music
it was my parents got me started in 4th

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grade they start me on the sax which
oddly enough up until then it was my

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dream to play the sax I wanted to be a
professional sax player it was when i

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first got that sack my first saxophone
it was like I felt like Zelda getting

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that first word like just holding it up
above my head and you know lightning was

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crashing all around me it was it was an
epic moment and then I realized you know

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sex isn’t all what i thought it was and
so I started playing guitar right after

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that and honestly playing guitar changed
my life it really it’s for anyone

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listening whoever wants to play an
instrument playing an instrument is a

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life-changing experience you will never
never find something that is going to

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just all inspire you like like an
instrument like creating your first your

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first song as bad as it may be your
first song is just I can still play the

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very

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first song I’ve ever heard on guitar and
it is it’s awful but to this day I still

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play any just it’s it’s an amazing
amazing thing you can create like that

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and I mean obviously you know by djing
you know you i guess more recycled but

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you you know you you dig up stuff and
you make it new again and you know it’s

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yeah i’m sure you can agree it’s just
it’s one of those things that even

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though you know it will stick with you
for the rest of your life you know and i

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mean i traveled through music you know
to from guitar bass drums to piano and

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then went to school for music recording
which was it was a fun experience it was

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I mean not that I would ever have a
career in it but it definitely it’s

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definitely experience I would never want
to take back i mean i was in my classes

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I think I had a nick the singer for Man
Overboard got signed actually have music

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careers now you know and I it’s awesome
for them i mean i’m i’m happy they did

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it i’m not sure if it’s the career I
would want back then it was but now I

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got a job i guess the post office about
10 years ago and it was it was a good

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job you know it at that age it was you
know I was making great money for 18 and

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I I really couldn’t have been you know
happier at the time and then you know I

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got into a more permanent position wish
I thought at the time was what i wanted

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and it seemed it seemed great i was
young i was in the post office i

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remember having elderly women all the
time telling me I’m too young to be a

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mailman and you know it was 18

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fresh out of high school and it was it
was a good job for me but it’s I wanted

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something that would challenge me and
it’s the same job every day and day out

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there is nothing challenging about it
and I guess I realize about three years

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ago that i really wanted more for myself
that if my high school self song what

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I’m doing now I’d be really really
disappointed in myself and so about two

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years ago I joined a band with a guy
names and falasca he is the second I got

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in the band he pulled me aside he said
what are you doing why aren’t you in

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school you’re ruining your life by not
by not pursuing what you want to see I

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mean I would come to practice and tell
him and he would know exactly helps that

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i was with my position

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I think two days later I signed up for
classes actually started as an

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engineering major

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I i think i was going for a title more
than something I enjoy so I guess couple

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semesters later I switch computer
programming and I love what I’m doing

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get ready to switch to my four-year
school don’t know where yet but soon

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soon very soon very excited about it and
really just hope to be able to continue

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on this type of path and really enjoy
what I do in the future i remember what

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the night that you told me that you are
thinking about going back to school and

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I like wow that’s a huge risk and
fortunately for you you started then

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because look how far you’ve come now
even though you still have another four

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years ahead of you but it’s it’s okay
because you’re getting married soon and

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you know she’s she’s a very good woman
and is willing to take care of your butt

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yes yes i am very very lucky I’m engaged
to my beautiful fiancée jennifer frats

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and we’re getting married in october and
you know she she already has been there

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she already went through schooling I
think when she first started she wanted

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to be a doctor but she learned later on
about a PA program and she’s doing what

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she enjoys and now we’re finally at a
point where she stable enough that I can

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finally you know I leave the post office
and devote my time completely to school

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and actually i only have two years left
just so you know two years

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ok but like that yes so how is your
dream of being a musician received by

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your parents they’ve always supported my
my love of music like I think I don’t

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think they’ve ever missed a show that
I’ve ever played

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I mean they’ve always you know anytime
we had band practice it was always open

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that we could have practice at my
parents house till whatever time at

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night you know they they were very very
supportive

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I mean more than I could ever ask for
with that i mean i think they were more

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upset when I said that mean

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music just going to be a hobby I’m not
gonna first try to pursue you know

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getting signing being a big band i just
wanted to hobby on a real job

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I think they were definitely definitely
upset when I said that you know I gotta

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say I know your parents pretty well I’ve
see them at almost every game and let’s

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look at eleven o’clock at night game

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yeah

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but even then they did come to us to a
handful of them that i recall with you

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know if they didn’t have work the next
morning but how is your dream of

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pursuing higher education and
challenging yourself how was that

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received by them

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well they were always very supportive
and I always wanted me to go back to

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school when I went to the post office
they really are you should go back to

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school too

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they’re not so on board with leaving
work and just going to school because

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that’s not the people they were they
were always you know I my dad dropped

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out of high school and gie later got his
GED but he was mostly a you know get his

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hands dirty type of blue-collar worker

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yeah and the same for my mom she did
pursue some community college but you

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know they were both just like you know
you need to work this is you know is how

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it is you need to work in theory you
know they were ok with their more okay

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with me working through school but with
working through school this would be a

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10 year degree and i’m not sure if I can
support going to school for that long

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and then starting career at 45 as
opposed to 32 like it’s you know but

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it’s just a different world may they’ve
always been you know they’ve always been

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the you your job comes first and then
everything else is not as important so

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you mentioned before how you got started
with music with the saxophone which by

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the way that was my first instrument of
choice

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I don’t miss it i want to get 1 i’m
gonna get what it was all about the bill

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clinton’s I don’t absolutely love what
you recall what steps did you take to

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get started with music

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was there anything special or maybe
about with the guitar was there anything

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other than just picking up and playing I
guess a big part of it is is the

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teachers that I had I mean I when I
started it was it was great to have a

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guitar but i guess for the first year or
so it was I would pick it up once a week

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and it would be that thing in the corner
of my room but that collected dust i

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found a couple teachers like it at
actual music schools and it actually my

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parents found a guy who taught out of
his garage out of a like industrial

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garage in in the industrial park here
and it was clicking with that really

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good teacher and after I found that
teacher I guess other friends could see

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that

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and I had other friends who joined up
with the same teacher so I also had

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other musician friends who we both had
the same teacher we are learning the

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same things on the same weeks so I had
somebody that like as soon as I learned

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something I could be like hey I learned
this let’s play and so I had something

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to always someone else always rekindle
that fire with me and like you know

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we’re playing a band together i think
for another 13 years after that and you

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know consecutively like soon as he would
leave man i believe and we both find

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another band together and you know it
was almost having that having a twin

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that I could always you know we spoke
her own language we had our own you know

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we didn’t have to speak we would we be
able to look each other or just think it

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soon as he was are playing I would know
what he’s playing and it was kind of

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that Lake you know this weird symbiotic
musical kind of thing that we had

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together that I think really propelled
me into music as far as I got

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now when it came time to go to get your
higher education together what steps did

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you take to get there

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well I mean the guy i started the local
colleges too i want you know to Camden

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County down the street and it was I mean
it was it was definitely scary like

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especially not knowing like going back
and it was so so long but I mean really

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it was just a matter of going to school
and talking to them there and basically

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going listen i don’t i’m not even sure
what I want to do I just know that i

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want to be back

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the people at the schools were extremely
helpful in getting me back i guess i got

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back into the motion of doing everything
it kind of became second nature and then

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it was like it was easy to sit there and
be like okay i hated this class in high

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school but i like it now or I hated this
class in high school and still a bad

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idea for me now you know so it was easy
to go back and say okay I’m not gonna be

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an English major that’s that’s for sure
you know and my degree now it was

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actually an elective something that I
had picked before and you know as soon

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as I soon as I got into my first
programming class realize how much I

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loved it was kinda just fell into place
so I mean it’s more of just getting past

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saying that you’re going to do it and
just getting their enrolling and getting

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in your head that this is my life now
this is what I’m going to do is really

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the hardest part was the first three
months before actually register for

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classes so was there any roblox with
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saying you

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the career is almost a roadblock in
itself because you put out there this

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grandiose they have music career like my
the band’s gonna get side and it’s you

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know it’s not like it’s you know it’s a
less than 1% type thing that you’re

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shooting for it’s like saying I’m gonna
I’m gonna you know get rich I’m gonna

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win the lottery that’s my job i’m gonna
buy lottery tickets every day and we’re

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gonna make one day we’re gonna hit and
you know I mean it’s really like you’re

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putting out there this not unachievable
dream but you know especially like

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putting all your eggs in that basket
like you know and saying oh yeah well

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you know this is it it almost limited it
limited everything else i did in life

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really because like I said music was a
life-changing thing so when I finished

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high school it wasn’t you know what
college might wanna go to it was where

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is the band going where you know and
that’s the reason I didn’t pursue

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College outside of high school because
at the time i mean i was with the band

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the same band for six years we were
playing the trocadero irregularly we’re

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playing we open for bands like valencia
who I guess later on if they’re still

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doing it but at the time they were big
you know we’re opening where I think we

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got up to headlining made stage at
trocadero and you know and really

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getting a steady set of shows so wasn’t
like you know it was like hey I want to

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ride this for a little bit you know one
guitar sleep well I’m not going to

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college something the drummer was going
to Rowan and everything state was right

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in glassboro it seemed like everything
was staying it’s just you know I think I

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did a couple business classes right out
of college the band always came first so

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the fact of having that music career
they’re like if that’s what you want to

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do

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it’s a great thing to do but noted that
you need to have some sort of backup and

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add 18 I didn’t have any backup
everything was it was the band or boss

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and sadly it looks just like most bands
it was bossed which led me getting stuck

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in the job that I’m in now so her for a
couple more months

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was there any way to overcome that that
you seen I think the problem is most

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people especially in bands they get that
they get tunnel vision and they see they

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see the million-dollar record deals
first of all they’re so like

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astronomically out of the picture

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you’re so lucky to get them

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spans they get them for musicians they
they struggle with like lower-level

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indie labels and then work their way up
to those big labels it’s very rare but

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it’s it’s just knowing that you need
something behind you you know you need

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to work through school or you need to
know what you like

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outside of that like it i mean if if
it’s what you want to do and I mean you

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know like you are putting out your album
now and I mean you are you’re on it

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every day and you are working you know
you’re pushing it and I mean better than

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I ever did you know I mean but eat with
that you also have the money behind that

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you know you have some sort of income to
put put ahead and say ok I need to put

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this much down to get cds press and when
we’re young we didn’t know that so it

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was literally like okay you got $25 i
got fifty you got a couple ok let’s get

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the CD made and yellow and rush rush
rush and you know and you don’t realize

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that it’s like when you report
especially in a band recording an album

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takes months of hard work and going into
their this is a song and then when

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you’re done that song is completely
different and you know and you spend

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thousands of dollars over what you
thought you were going to for the album

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and now you’re broke and now you have no
money to push that album you know so

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it’s like later in life looking back I
think it’d be easier to do something

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like that now but again out of high
school it’s like you’re putting all your

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money to that you’re not focused on
having a back-up plan or anything like

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that and i really wish i would have had
a back-up plan or focus on school

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not that i knew what i wanted to do back
then but at least I had my foot in the

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door so when I when I got there I would
have known what to do

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well that leads us right into school
have you have a roblox with schooling

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no I don’t think that my biggest
roadblock was going in

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originally I went in for a chemical
engineering major and it was mostly for

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a title it was I didn’t know what I
wanted to do so I was like well this

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title sounds great you know engineering
sounds and impressive and you know and I

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was going for that and all my classes
were were very hard and you know I think

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my my program elective was my first
elected that I was like oh my god this

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is something I i was like maybe I can do
this on the side and it will you know

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it’ll lessen the load

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of what I’m doing now but that’s
somebody at school stop me one day and

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was like what is a chemical engineer do
and after about 45 minutes trying to

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figure it out i really i have not a clue

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so you know and I realized I i liked the
the programming courses so why not do

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that but other than that I actually have
had no no roadblocks the only road block

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I guess outside of school would be my
job is a six days a week 10 hours a day

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job

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I can’t really handle more than two
classes semester and with that I’ve had

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to do to class semester and then classes
all throughout the summer over the

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winter breaks just to try and make up
that lost time that I can’t really do

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because of work so right now is my first
extended period off of school in three

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years

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definitely enjoying having some a little
bit of a break but other than I think

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work and not knowing what i want to do
really there was no roadblocks school

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well that’s good to hear any parts your
dream that haven’t quite worked out

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other than not getting signed to that
million-dollar contract so far no I mean

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with school everything you know
especially with the programming side

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everything’s going really well i have
networked and met a bunch of a lot of

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programmers in ipad software development
iphone development arm little bit

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android development i have a couple
friends who work for like Lockheed

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Martin and a friend who is developing
software for pens cancer and research

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institute you know so i have a lot of a
lot of people in the industry who can

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help me along the way and i’m not
exactly sure what branch of programming

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i want to go into I just know that you
know I enjoy that it’s a it’s a logic

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it’s a straightforward one plus one
equals two and not like an English well

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the preposition of the verb on being on
this side of the semicolon you know it’s

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it’s it’s more of a direct science and
that kind of straightforward kinda let

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me set up my computer and Hammer way
these keys type person so it works for

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me

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so let me ask if you were stranded on a
deserted island with your family what

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three things would you want with you

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actually you know it’s gonna be hard to
pick three not not pick only three but

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actually to pick three because really I
only think i would need to

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I to be honest I think i would need a
just a pad of paper and mechanical

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pencil and I first of all I just like
mechanical pencils because anyone who’s

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read your pencils just blows my mind yes
sir

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awesome that’s a pen now it is a pic
mechanical pencil it look like I know

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what my chances are now I know other
than that my I really don’t think i

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would need much of anything like I’m a
huge boardgame person you know so i

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could sit here and in my head thinking
okay what board game what I need to

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bring but really with with a pad of
paper and a pencil it’s very easy to sit

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there and make a game of checkers or
make a game of chess or in fact any game

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out there barring my awful art skills
you could make something to divide your

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time in right you know you can write i
could write music for me I don’t need an

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instrument if i can write down the notes
i can hear it in my head I can see it I

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can I know exactly how that would plan
out like so for me I mean a pad of paper

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and a pencil goes a long way I guess if
if I had to bring a third maybe jolly

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rancher soda just because it’s awesome
and you can’t find everywhere I think

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I’ve seen that shoprite the other day

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I’ve only found I like big lots and it’s
oh maybe it was big like my god i think

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you’re right have you ever had it is no
I had not sugar through the roof

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i-i’ve had their their slushy all your
answer / you they had Heritage’s before

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oh my god i don’t think they still do
but now that I mean that would only if I

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have to pick a third automatically set a
pad of paper and a pencil goes a long

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way so what are your dreams for the
future look like

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well I mean after October I mean to be
married and hopefully buy a house my

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wife soon and hopefully i would like to
pursue a master’s degree in computer

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programming my I guess my dream will not
dream school but I guess where i’m

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shooting to go soon is a West Chester
University which is a NSA approved to

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computer science program which is a I
was a shoo-in but it’s more likely pick

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for like FBI CIA and stuff like that for
you know for jobs which I mean I just

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think it’d be cool to be like you know
flip flip open a bad like you

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agent Mulder and start my own x-files
but i’m not sure if I really care where

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I go in the field

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I mean obviously I’m gonna have to start
somewhere to get my my feet wet but i’m

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not i’m not too worried about I guess
where i go afterwards because i’m really

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trying to enjoy this part of my life
being almost 30 going back to school and

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it almost feels like I missed out on
that period of my life especially when I

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talk to my fiance and she’s like oh we
did this and cause we did this and we

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did this we did this and like I was
working thanks

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so I’m really trying to focus on the
here and now and worry about later later

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however I do want to i do a plan to get
my masters in computer science and

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pursue I guess I’ll i mean i would like
a job in the field but i would i’m

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hoping that at least when i’m out i’ll
still like it enough to be able to do

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stuff on the side for myself now i have
a project going where I’m making

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computerized instructions for board
games for people who are into board

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games some of the actual board game
people for games are extremely rule

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heavy and 56-page rule books and it’s
hard to go through and learn what

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happened to flip through a know where
those back on page 34 that was back on

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here so I’m developing a program where
it’s it’s basically just hit setup it

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tells you you know anything that needs
to be randomized it randomizes it tells

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you you have this you have this and goes
through and sets everything up on the

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computer and obviously I’m not fully in
the field so it’s very very basic but

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just enough to get my hands dirty and
get in there and do something with it

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and what I actually answered the
question there but i ramble

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it’s alright well so do you have any
last thoughts to share with the audience

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know now I mean really I would think the
only thing I would have left to say is

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the same thing I think your podcast says
to everyone on the whole is you know to

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pursue your dreams and don’t be afraid
to really go all in and and really try

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and make what you want to do come true
because putting a job have been after 10

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years and leaving up you know what would
one day be a pension and retirement and

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leaving all that behind for something
that I’m not

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i guess i’m not even sure that could be
there in the future you know it but I

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mean I’m sure will be but may or may not
you know it

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not pan out and then I left my my career
for it but i think i would rather try

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this and fail then stay at somewhere i’m
not happy for the rest of my life

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because yeah I could sit there and say
hey can you know I can I mean 10 years

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and i would only have 15 years left not
like I get to the end of life and say I

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want to start over you know it’s i only
have $MONEY right here and now i’m not

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i’m not getting younger I can’t sit here
and say hey I want to go back and do my

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twenties back at school

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it’s not gonna happen you know you’re
only gonna get colder and your your

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dreams are just gonna get harder and
harder to start at because you’re gonna

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get stuck in a rut you’re going to get
you comfortable where you are and it’s

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gonna be harder to get out of that
comfort zone and really just have to

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push yourself and experience stuff
outside your comfort zone and I’m

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rambling again so i’m just going to give
this back to you

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was there anything you’d like to plug
armed man I could really good dirty with

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that ugly enough i have taken some time
off from social media so i actually

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don’t have anything of my own to plug
the only thing i would even have

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remotely to plug with your seating in
fact so I mean if you want to take a few

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moments that kind of talk about that
other than that I really don’t have

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anything

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wow I back thank you for that will ya
ventilatory emits disney music at its

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finest matched up with classic hip hop
instrumentals to the story of up and the

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CD is ten dollars plus three dollars
shipping you can order right at

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adventure torium . com two dollars and
fifty cents of every water goes to give

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kids the world it’s a fantastic
organization that brings kids and their

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families with life-threatening illnesses
down to Central Florida so that they can

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experience all the magic of universal
and seaworld and disney world and just

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forget about all their their doctors
appointments and medications and just be

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kids and they get the ice cream for
breakfast and they have parties every

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night and it’s really a wonderful
organization that accepts any and all

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volunteers and they’re very fiscally
responsible i can’t say enough good

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about them

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the project’s just was designed to help
support them

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so thank you very much for all that will
welcome and thank you for being on the

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show i wish i could have ice cream for
breakfast while you you’re old enough to

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do that now that sadly now that i’m old
enough my stomach can’t handle itself

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too old to do it now it’s tough getting
old

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yes sir well thank you again so much for
coming on the show I really appreciate

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it and I’d love to have you on again at
some point you have me out

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come back anytime you need me thank you
for joining us for this episode of the

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dreamers podcast follow us on twitter
and dreamers podcast join us on facebook

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at facebook.com slash dreamers podcast

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if you or someone you know would like to
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please send an email to j and j parr .
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parr . cone

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official there

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