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Trucks were the main outlet for Mike’s mechanical prowess!

From the age of 10, Mike knew that he wanted to work, be around, and own large heavy duty trucks. From there he went on to own his own repair shop where he treated them as if they were the customers. So much so that drivers of the trucks wouldn’t want to see him at the shop, they would leave the trucks in the yard. The drivers were worried they would be told that they are mistreating the trucks that they drive by not maintaing them.

Mike went on eventually to have his own under a trucking company he started. Unfortunately, Mike was eventually involved in an accident that sent him down a 65 foot embankment that caused the beginning of the decline of his health.

This is the first interview I’ve done with a member of my own family. This is also the first interview I’ve done posthumously, through my great aunt. It was an honor to be able to sit down and get these stories documented, and I hope to do more of these.

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this is the dreamers podcast where
dreamers shared their stories to inspire

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you

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now join host Joe Pardo as he interviews
a dreamer who’s living their dreams

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yeah

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welcome to the Germans podcast I’m your
host Joe Pardo and today I’m

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interviewing my great aunt sue part of
senior or my great uncle michael part of

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senior posthumously who lives his dreams
through heavy duty trucks

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welcome to the show and Sue hello thank
you for coming on your welcome Joe let’s

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get started by giving some background
about yourself and your relationship

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with Uncle Mike and then go into how
Mike lived his life

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okay well I met akamai crowd 1985 I
worked for a trucking company and he had

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a repair business one of the customers
had a truck in the shop they couldn’t

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pay for it and another customer hide a
truck in the shop that she inherited

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from her mother so she needed a driver
on the truck so might put them together

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and they leased the truck on with the
trucking company I was working for and I

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used to dispatch him he would take care
of all the loads and stuff so we used to

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talk through the week then on fridays i
would collect paperwork and pay the

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drivers

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well one week he said he was going for
italian seafood and I said oh I like

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seafood

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he said well you want to come with us
and I was like I kind of felt like I’d

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invited myself so I said no no that’s
okay so the next week when I talked to

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him he asked me out and said look you
want to go get seafood nice the desk and

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that’s where it began

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we saw each other from october to $MONTH
january and then I moved in with them i

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guess it was August they had moved the
business from deptford down to the soul

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and when they moved to business

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the girl that was working in the office
apparently didn’t know a whole lot

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because Mike asked me to go down and set
up the files in the office so I did I

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went down and set up the files but I set
them up very general generally welcomed

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august i was down the shore on vacation
and I talked to my grenade and he said

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to me when you come home you have a job
and I was like okay well the girl went

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to lunch and never came back

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in the meantime backtrack a little that
may the trucking company that I worked

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for for 16 years had offered they were
closing the office in New Jersey they

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offered to send me to albany new york
and i said now I I wouldn’t move so so I

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was off for the first time since i
graduated from high school

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so when he said I had a job I was like
okay well i thought i was going to have

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a little bit more time off but I came
back and I went to the office and I

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started basically I was general office
work and a waitress because you would go

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in and at ten o’clock you would take the
orders for break and at noon you take

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the orders and then at the end of the
week it was trying to collect the money

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from all the mechanics but being there
every day then I could see more of what

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he did and what he liked in more into
what he who he was he loved the trucks

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he loved doing the work he he always
said to people that when he was 10 his

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father has somebody wanted for christmas
and he said he wanted a truck and his

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father brought him the tractor and he
started working on him since he was 10

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years old but he could probably work
take it apart and put it back together

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like nobody’s business when he was in
high school and his father had trucking

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company you see on the phone talking to
the driver is out on the road telling

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them how to fix the truck and then when
he graduated from high school he said

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the only reason he actually graduate it
was because they used to fix all the

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priests cars but he not only fix trucks
he actually fabricated trucks he would

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take somebody would come in and we did a
lot of trash trucks and they would come

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in and trash trucks you know you don’t
just go to the trash truck store

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dealership and get a truck you basically
have to have it put together so we had

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one customer in from defar and they used
to come to us all the time and he would

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take you know he take the old body often
put a new body on somebody would come in

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and want something done and he tells a
story that when he was before I met him

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so he was

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quite a bit younger that someone had
come in and they used to bring their

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their vehicles in and hear the gentleman
had kind of like a sideshow type thing

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he would have liked the smallest horse
the biggest horse the smallest this the

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biggest that and they will come in and
you know Mike would fix their trucks or

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their trailers or whatever needs to be
done and then he had someone come in one

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time that there was a gay bar and
Philadelphia that wanted to have a

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tractor put inside the bar on the second
floor so he went and got all the

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equipment got an old tractor got the
hoist and all that stuff opened up the

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side of the building and actually put it
inside the gay bar and so the guys who

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go in and drive and they had the air
horn and he had he had a lot of

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different things but he could as far as
doing anything mechanical it wasn’t

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really just trucks could do electrical
work you could do plumbing work you

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could do he had that kind of a
mechanical mind he could sit down with

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the piece of paper he always had to draw
things out if he had an idea he’d have

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to sit there and he’d have to show you
with the piece of paper and a pencil

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this is how you did this is how you did
it and then the older he got and his

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health wasn’t so good then that’s when
he really started to decline but once he

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couldn’t work on the trucks then he
wanted to own the trucks so he bought a

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truck apparently the first truck that he
ever owned it was a burnout truck from

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an old customer who was a friend and the
driver the driver had had an accident in

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the vehicle and had died and he bought
basically the scrap from the wife and he

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took that truck and took it down to bare
bones and he made his first tractor out

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of it and he put that on the road and he
had the trucking company the first time

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we had

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I guess 12 trucks then it just it just
wasn’t worth it anymore

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at that time he was running 12 trucks
plus running a repair business and it

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just wasn’t worth it anymore

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the trucking company wasn’t bringing in
enough money to be offset but we were he

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was doing it what how a mechanic would
do it which would be taken old truck and

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fix it up and put it on the road but the
drivers weren’t out there to drive old

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trucks the drivers wanted new trucks you
know with all the latest bells and

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whistles and all that stuff so we close
the trucking company then and just did

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the repairs then we bought a piece of
property up in Pennsylvania where he

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used to go hunting

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he loved to hunt we have as Joe can tell
you we have lots of deer heads and I

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have an elk and I have a bear in my
family room from likes hunting

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expeditions he did love to hunt but uh
he kind of lost a lot of that but he got

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into x and trucks when we build a house
up in west central Pennsylvania he

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started with a couple trucks and then a
couple more than a couple more was the

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less he could do the more it seemed like
the more trucks he had by basically and

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no heat that’s what he wanted to do he
just wanted the drugs and when a

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customer come into his repair business

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it wouldn’t be the customer wasn’t the
customer the truck was the customer so

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if a driver brought a truck in that the
driver did not take care of which was

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you know getting your truck every day
you have to check the the oil in the

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water and the tires and you walk around
the truck and you’re supposed to do all

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that stuff anyway

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drivers will just get in and go you know
and the trucks will come and they have

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you no no oil with blown engines and
what Mike you say you know this this is

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something you have to maintain you can’t
drive this into the ground you have to

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take care of it but we got to the point
where some some of the drivers would

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drop the trucks out in the yard and then
the owners will call us and tell us the

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trucks were in the yard because the
drivers didn’t want to get hard up

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because they will get hard and if they
didn’t treat the trucks right he just

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loved drops how long ago is uncle mike
Dingaan he died

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februari eleventh of $MONTH 2012 so he’s
been gone about two and a half years

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so what would you say inspired him the
most the way he he enjoyed working with

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his hands with the trucks he had a real
mechanical mind so the best he was when

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someone would come in and he would have
to fabricate something and he would sit

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there and he would that would that would
give him great joy because that’s what

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he loves to do is to make something out
of nothing he would make tools you’ve

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had a job to do and it was hard to get
to a spot on the truck you know he made

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his own tool so he could fix it but
that’s basically what his love was that

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hands-on mechanical stuff so when he
actually couldn’t do it anymore

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it really really hurt him especially
after he had his accident because he

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thought he would be able to go out in
the garage last thing he tried to do was

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go out to the garage at the house he
thought he could sit down and do a

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transmission because they feared you
know he couldn’t walk but he could sit

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but he just couldn’t do it anymore and
that was kind of like the the beginning

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of the downfall because then it’s like
you know why keep going well you

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mentioned accident could you elaborate
more on that yes we’re Lebanon

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Pennsylvania he was down on a cup kidnap
but it’s what I call four-wheeler with a

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steering wheel and he went out one night
and he was supposed to be checking the

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back of the property we had 63 acres up
there and 40 minutes he wasn’t back so I

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call friends of ours and they went out
looking for him and they never found him

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til 1030 that night he had gone down a
65-foot embankment but it was fine in

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fact when our friends found him he said
dome you pass me twice

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he did have quite a quite a dry sense of
humor but he seemed finally they setting

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shattered is the bone in his elbow and
he wanted to go home from the emergency

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room but they said no stay overnight
while once he stayed overnight then the

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next afternoon I got the phone call that
you know things weren’t going so well he

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was confused he didn’t know where he was
and they wound up putting them in

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intensive care and then they they had to
intubate on because he kept short

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breathing like he wasn’t getting all the
carbon dioxide out of his long so they

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had to battle Adelman they sent him over
to this was out in altoona pennsylvania

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so they wanted to send him over to
pittsburgh but I suggest that they send

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in Philadelphia since that’s where all
our family is outside of the

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Philadelphia area and so that’s what
they did he was in intensive care at the

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University of Pennsylvania for seven
weeks and then he was in a long-term

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acute hair care hospital for two months
and then the problem is is that there’s

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no facility for someone that is
overweight and want a ventilator and he

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was on Medicare well in New Jersey they
don’t accept Medicare in these places

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like long-term and so we tried to find a
place over in Pennsylvania up nearer my

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sister Maria Rita and they wouldn’t take
me there so I really had no choice but

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to bring home so we brought him home on
a ventilator September of 2010 and by

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march two thousand eleven he was off the
ventilator and he had been trait so he

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was off the ventilator and he was
actually off the trick but he just

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couldn’t walk again and just after being
hospitalized and in bed that long he

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just and he had bad knees to begin with
and he put up with it I mean he walked

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they had told him he

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get new replacement years ago but they
told to come back after lost 200 pounds

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because he was a a big Santa Claus is
what everybody would call him because

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that’s what they look like Santa Claus
big job way wasn’t ja-ae it was

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definitely more on the quiet side but
yet what I saw him on what I knew of him

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he was very funny and I will be watching
TV at night and i would say no why did

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they do that

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I don’t all of a sudden he pick up the
phone and he pretended I so what are you

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doing he says they’re calling them to
find out why they’re doing it that way

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but a lot of people never saw that side
of him he didn’t really show his true

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colors to a lot of people know I i can
attest to a lot of that yes in fact the

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one time was when Joe’s sister when Joe
and Michelle real real little Michelle

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was probably too we had gone to the
Christmas the family christmas party /

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snag and Santa Claus told Michelle that
she would be able to get any gifts

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unless you went and gave uncle mike a
kiss so she ran across the room she

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stood in front of Mike and you turn
around and run away and believe it or

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not my kit Mike enjoyed that because he
loved to torment little kids

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he just loved he loved them they always
wanted to hold him but he loved to

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torment me would call little boys little
girls the little girls little boys you

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know it’s just he had a very weird sense
of humor and I can attest that too

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how did his dream come about and he said
that ten years old he wanted a truck

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I’m not sure whether it was because Mike
was so talented with trucks his father

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his father did all kinds of stuff is
father used to do wallpaper and painting

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and

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he was he saw produce and he did get
into trucks because of the produce and

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then he started to have trucks and then
Mike would fix them but then the story

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that I that I had heard was that the
drivers were gonna go union and family

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didn’t want that so they close the
company up then then basically they

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started to just do repairs and Mike’s
father had bought the property over

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endeavor and at the time they were doing

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seabrook forms was a big customer and
they used to repair all their trucks and

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then the family got into pioneer truck
rentals they used to get by trucks fix

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them up and they would run out the
trucks they were kind of ahead of their

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time before like rider or all those
other companies going into it but

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basically they had all the trucks and
i’m not sure of why the trucks for the

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Reynolds i’m not sure how that actually
happened you may your dead no more of

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that part of it but then they got into
the truck sales and welcome i told me

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the story that when he I mean he was so
young that when his father had to shop

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over and effort which actually was where
pioneer started there was an older

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gentleman there and Mike’s father sent
over there to run the shop over there

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and the older gentleman didn’t like it
because Mike was probably 20 and finally

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they had to let the other guy go because
my new more than the older gentleman but

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the older gentleman really didn’t want
to answer to be on fellow which I can

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understand elder moulder but basically
that’s all he wanted to do with his life

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he just wanted to fix the trucks that’s
all he wanted to do was work on trucks

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and then when he run into financial
problems that so he would make extra

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money go work for somebody else fix and
trucks you know early on pioneer wasn’t

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that successful it was really just
starting out you know and there was it

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was a family business

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so it was not only Mike but his brother
your grandfather and their father

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so you know there wasn’t lots of money
going around so when you have family

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obligations micro and work other mean
that’s how good he was other shops would

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hire him and then when I got to really
work in the garage i could see where

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there was really nobody else in our area
around that did the kind of work that

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Mike did might never ever turn down a
job whatever came in

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no matter what it was we used to call
some of them the you know the jobs from

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hell but he wouldn’t give up until it
got fixed and there’s lots of times that

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you know we probably we’re not paying
for the job

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more so than what the customer could
have ever paid because Mike once once he

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got his claws into it that was that he
was gonna fix it

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come hell or high water so do you recall
any stories about how his dream was

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received by his family whether they were
supportive because I’m pioneer wasn’t

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around when he was born so to fall in
love with trucks at such a young age and

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the bead mechanically inclined

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how was that looked at by my
great-grandfather perfect i’ll that just

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fit right into the scheme of things
because he had trucks

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I mean your great-grandfather started
from absolutely nothing in fact him and

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your great grandmother moved in with
your grandmother’s family when they

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first got married so what he built but
that’s a whole other podcast from

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someone else to tell but I mean he did
whatever he could to take care of the

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family and he went anybody truck so that
he could deliver the produce and then I

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guess his love of the trucks

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I mean then he got involved in the
trucks little by little your

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great-grandfather and then when Uncle
Mike came along he just he just had a

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natural talent for it and he had the
perfect segue into what he wanted to do

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with the rest of his life and worked out
well because it became a family deal

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where Mike would take care of the trucks
and his brother took care of the

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business end of it and the father just
kind of oversaw everything so it was

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like he never

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he never ever wanted to do anything else
with his life just the drugs do you

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recall what steps you took to get
started while his his father had a

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garage over in Philadelphia when he was
the kid after school he would go over

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and working it you know when i’m sure
you know doing oil changes or whatever I

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mean Mike was a big guy but not only was
the big guy but he have broad shoulders

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and back when he was working on things
there were no lifts and stuff like that

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he worked out on you know bare concrete
floor you know picking up transmissions

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I mean he had arms that were you know
solid you may have been a a big heavy

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guy but he was a solid guy

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so a lot of it was just because of what
he did but he just it just this is what

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he wanted to do it was it was what he
was meant to do but now he always

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dreamed of having trucks that’s what
trucks on the road having a trucking

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company and pick up to do that not once
but twice and the second time was when

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we were living up in Pennsylvania we had
13 tractors on the road he had a little

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shop down there with two mechanics that
you know help fix the trucks and he was

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in his glory but then he had the
accident and I did whatever I could do

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to keep those trucks running because I
knew if he didn’t have those trucks to

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come back to

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I’m not sure how much you would have
come back and hey he came back so what

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were some of the roadblocks a hit over
the course of the years

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well he did have heart surgery I don’t
remember exactly what year was $YEAR i

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think it was like maybe 2000 2001 it was
the year william was born because Maria

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had just had the baby and Mike went for
arm strut the stress test where they

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going through the groin kick would
catherization

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and they said he needed you need to have
in heart surgery so we went home that

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day anyone back four days later and had
open-heart surgery and then after that

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things kind of went downhill from that
just trying to get himself back into to

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some kind of shape he was overweight you
know out of shape overweight and that

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was his that was his biggest straw back
is that you know he would try diet after

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diet after diet and then we would try
twice we went to doctors for the gastric

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bypass surgery one we got exclusive as
like three days before the surgery and

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the doctor said he wouldn’t do it
because it was too high of a risk then

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we went over to the University of
Pennsylvania and they said now he was by

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that time it he was older and he was too
high of a risk that they weren’t sure

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whether he would come out from the
surgery so after two times have been

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told that then he said forget it
basically his big biggest obstacle in

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his life was this weight how exactly did
Uncle Mike work through being overweight

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never did he suffered with it they
suffer with bad knees

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he didn’t live long enough to overcome
it put it that way he really didn’t live

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long enough to overcome it

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the accident was really the beginning of
the end for him if you hadn’t had the

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accident he may have by the accident
just I mean to put them in a really

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great was only 67 when he died yeah
definitely gone too soon way to sin way

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to send it was there any parts of his
dream that didn’t quite work out for him

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I think the economy got so bad that he
tried to do everything the old way the

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way he was used to doing things but the
world was changing the economy was

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changing there was more repair shops
around when he was used to be in the

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only one around then all of a sudden
there was more repair shops around new

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trucks for coming out like foreign
trucks that were real affordable for

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coming out so a lot of the customers
were going two new trucks so the work

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wasn’t there for him

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and he still wanted to operate the old
way like he never look towards the

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future the way he should have as far as
how the world was changing because it

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was the same way for so long it was so
successful for so long I used to stay

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home you know one of these days because
used to complain about all the work i

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said one of these days there won’t be
the world and the the one day came when

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it just you know you’re looking for work
but that wasn’t him that was the way the

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economy got that was in 2008 when kind
of the bottom fell out of everything for

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everybody so if you were stranded on a
desert on with his family

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what three things do you think you’d
want to have with him definitely

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pistachios long . she owes probably his
truck is his purple pickup truck and

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probably his Hershey bar with nuts will
regimes for the future like wow he was

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really trying to establish a trucking
company he was hoping that you know

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build on that something for his children
and his grandchildren shooter that you

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know might help them have an easier life
in their future because of something he

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had built but it was always this dream
to have a trucking company you know you

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mentioned earlier about him being really
kind to the companies that dealt with

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him one thing you didn’t really mention
was the the kindness to the level of

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almost painfulness that he took letting
people use his storage or or whatever

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and for many many in some cases forever
always we all happening with the window

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water with no monetary well if he always
had an exterior of a grizzly bear but

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inside he was a teddy bear

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I mean if somebody came up with a sad
story

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he he put his hand in his pocket to help
them out i sold over and over again if

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somebody needed something he was there
and you know if someone came to

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to him and they were having problems

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money-wise then the end one instant was
that they wanted him to buy their house

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so they could get the money so they
could pay and get their bill straight

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down and then basically in two years
remortgaged the house and get it back

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well I always say that no good deed goes
unpunished and his saying was always he

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he would say my father always told
always told me that if you help somebody

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out that will come back to you tenfold

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well I never seem to come back to him
tenfold

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no matter how he would help out it
always came back to bite him in the butt

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no matter what I mean I’m still dealing
with that even after he’s gone

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yeah I always still have situations
where you know he helped people out and

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and then people take advantage of it you
know with him they didn’t because he was

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a force to be reckoned with but I’m not
so I inherited a lot of the good deeds

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that he did when he was you have
somebody came to him with the side story

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he was always ready to help even if it
wasn’t monetary even if it was just

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talking to someone or let’s go get
something to eat or you know he was

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always ready to help somebody

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so is there any last thoughts you’d like
to share oh just that I wish he had

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lasted a lot longer than he lived a lot
longer and he would have loved to watch

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his grandsons grow up because he did
love his grandsons when we left up in

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Pennsylvania he would every night he’d
call Michael worried call William and

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then it was funny he would call we
recall William and William go high pop

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and Mike Witt said on William can you
loan me some money he said pop I don’t

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have any money

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William will you love me and will you
loan me a dollar and on friday i’ll give

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you five no pop I’m not lending you any
money can i talk to Grandma about here

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we can play never wants to talk to me
never wants to talk to me

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well this one day William got Mike on
the phone and he kept talking and he

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kept talking and my kids they don’t one
talk to Grandma no pop I want to talk to

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you where you want to

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up so when they really wanted to talk to
all men it was like okay now i

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understood we can now he behaviorally
loves as two grandsons were like the

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light of his life he really enjoyed
having the two boys don’t know whether

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it would have been happy with girls but
he loved having the boys they you have a

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man on the four-wheelers or have them on
the trucks you know we’d be in the

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garage

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Mike would be on his scooter and have
William in the front of the scooter

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going around the shop or if we had a
front end loader or something in the

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shop have William up there and we will
pretend he was you know moving the gears

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and driving the truck so yeah definitely
he he loved his grandsons and they loved

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him so well thank you for sharing all
that i really appreciate you coming on

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the show

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you’re welcome anytime take care thank
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